- [[2022-10-04 21:09:54]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] ([link](https://develop.element.io/#/room/!WhilafaLxfJNoigHCj:matrix.org/$82ITdhIJgVPnaosKeWTM-lbRRzg2eW4oqDCptohciNY)):
  - relevant to this I started reading, but didn't ready much of yet, [[the precipice]] by [[toby ord]]